Tucker Carlson interviewed ‘The Intercept’ co-founder Glenn Greenwald after he quit his job on Thursday, claiming editors censored story critical of Biden. Greenwald told Carlson left is in bed with a CIA set on destroying Trump and complained that the left’s “healthy skepticism” of what intelligence agencies say has “disappeared.” “The obvious foundational prohibition on having a national security state after World War II was it was never supposed to be turned domestically,” Greenwald said. “They weren’t supposed to be involved in our politics or disseminating propaganda. Go turn on any of those cable networks or pick up the op-ed page of any of the biggest newspapers and you will see are ex-members of the CIA, the DOJ, the FBI, the NSA telling Americans what they ought to believe. They have infiltrated the means of communication domestically. They do it through leaks, they do it through clandestine operations and through lies. They propagandize the American people in a way that is incredibly dangerous no matter what your ideology is.”
TUCKER CARLSON: I would imagine that some of our viewers don’t read the intercept. You live outside of our country which is one of the reasons why I think you say what you think is true. Tell us what this portends for the future here in the United States. GLENN GREENWALD: The Intercept was actually for a while a unique publication and I think the vision I just described was one reason. Another was that it was intended above all else to be highly skeptical of the claims of intelligence agencies. At the time that we were doing the reporting, the attacks were coming from the NSA, the CIA, the deep state, against me, against my source Edward Snowden, and against the reporting. And we knew they were lying constantly and disseminating propaganda in a very powerful way. So we said, we’re going to investigate them, we’re going to be skeptical of them. We’re going to subject their assertions to critical scrutiny. And I’m so embarrassed and angered that the media outlet that I created along with two other excellent journalists to do that, the only article I published about all of these documents that have emerged about Joe Biden other than a column of mine where I denounced Facebook and Twitter for censoring it, was an article in reference in passing to those documents, very snidely and dismissively to say that no one should pay attention to it because it was Russian disinformation and it cited a letter from John Brennan, James Clapper, and the rest of the goons from the CIA and the intelligence community asserting it. And worse still, that letter said we have no evidence that Russia is involved in any of this. The Intercept omitted that phrase, simply cited that letter to try to encourage people to ignore this evidence on the grounds that Russia had manufactured it and that the evidence was fabricated, even though there’s never been any evidence that that has been true and everything since has disproven it, showing that Russia was not involved in any of this and nobody certainly including oe Biden disputes that these emails and other text messages are completely real and authentic. TUCKER CARLSON: That’s horrifying. So what you’re watching is agencies of the U.S. government turning their awesome and unconstrained powers against the American population. GLENN GREENWALD: This is the real story of the last four years of the Trump administration which is that for a long time on the left there was a healthy skepticism of the CIA. There was a lot of anti-war activism in the Bush and Cheney years. That has all disappeared. And the reason it’s disappeared is because the CIA from the very first days of the Trump administration even before he was inaugurated devoted themselves to sabotaging the inauguration because Donald Trump questioned a few of their pieties and that can’t be done in Washington. Whoever does that must be destroyed. So the CIA and the deep state operatives became heroes of the liberal left, the people who support the Democratic party. They’re now in a full union with the neocons, the Bush-Cheney operatives, the CIA, Silicon Valley and Wall Street. That is the union of power along with mainstream media outlets that are fully behind the Democratic party which is likely to at least take over one branch of government if not all of them in the coming election and that’s a very alarming proposition because they are authoritarian, they believe in censorship and they believe in suppression of information that exposes them in any kind of critical light… [CIA] are trained disinformation agents, that’s what they do, they lie for a living. But they are supposed to do that in other countries where they want to induce some sort of change. Overthrow a government, topple a regime, whatever “interference” the U.S. government wants to do the way we’re all so upset that Russia did in 2016. That’s what they are trained to do. The law, though, and the obvious foundational prohibition on having a national security state after World War II was it was never supposed to be turned domestically. They weren’t supposed to be involved in our politics or disseminating propaganda. Go turn on any of those cable networks or pick up the op-ed page of any of the biggest newspapers and you will see are ex-members of the CIA, the DOJ, the FBI, the NSA telling Americans what they ought to believe. They have infiltrated the means of communication domestically. They do it through leaks, they do it through clandestine operations and through lies. They propagandize the American people in a way that is incredibly dangerous no matter what your ideology is.