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Tucker Carlson: Real Science Is Complicated And Almost Always Incremental


TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: From early on in this crisis, we took the virus seriously, but we doubted that Chinese-style lockdowns were a wise response to the Chinese coronavirus. Even if they worked as advertised and as you just heard, there’s now overwhelming evidence that they don’t work as advertised, despite what politicians continue to say, mass quarantines, under the best circumstance are really just a stopgap. The only way to tame a virus like this is with science. A single effective treatment would make all the difference right away. You wouldn’t have to cure every sick patient, but if you could cure a significant number of sick patients and lower the death rate, this would be a completely different country. Hope would return. Fear would resign. We could begin to regard this as a manageable illness as we do so many other illnesses. More than 600,000 Americans, for example, died this year from cancer. That’s a tragic number, you doubtless know some, but we accept it, and we live our lives bravely in the face of it in part because cancer horrible as it is, isn’t very mysterious anymore. There are treatments for it. Those treatments sadly, don’t always work, but they work often enough that we can manage to live without panic. So, it’s been obvious from day one that the main goal here as we fight this pandemic has got to be finding effective treatments for the virus. That’s obvious and most people understand it intuitively. The President does. He regularly uses his daily press briefings to tout potential new medical advances. One of the first off-label drugs that doctors around the world used to treat the coronavirus was a medicine called hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine is a cheap, decade’s old medicine long recognized as a therapeutic for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune diseases. It was originally an antimalarial drug. If you’ve traveled to the third world, it’s entirely possible you have already taken this drug. Early evidence suggested that hydroxychloroquine might be promising. Physicians in the hardest hit countries, Spain and Italy, for example, reported that it was their preferred treatment for the coronavirus. One day from the podium, the President touted the drug as a promising lead, and that was it for hydroxychloroquine. From that moment on, precisely that moment, in the minds the partisans in our media establishment, hydroxychloroquine was purely a political issue. The drug was no longer a medicine, a therapy, it was the medical equivalent of Vladimir Putin. It was a cudgel they can swing in the air mindlessly to hit their ideological opponents in the hope of political gain. They ignored evidence that hydroxychloroquine might be effective in some ways. They waited anxiously for evidence that it might not be, and the other day they got it. Several recent studies suggest that hydroxychloroquine is unlikely to help people who are already severely ill with the coronavirus. For most Americans, this was disappointing news. They wanted it to work. But at CNN, it was cause for celebration. The network produced a video for its website tallying up every time the President had mentioned hydroxychloroquine. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: A drug called chloroquine — hydroxychloroquine. Chloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine. Chloroquine. Chloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine. The hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine. That’s a lot of good things are happening with it — a lot of good tests. (END VIDEO CLIP) CARLSON: Over at “The Washington Post” which so often seemed to work in tandem with CNN and shock troops for the Democratic Party, a person called Philip Bump produced a 3,000 word long timeline looking at, quote, “The rise and fall of Trump’s obsession with hydroxychloroquine.” It was yet another exercise in deep irony. Bump himself obsessively chronicled every time the President as much as retweeted a mention of the drug. Bump blogged the precise number of times that hydroxychloroquine was mentioned on this and on Fox Business. Paging Dr. Freud. It’s possible that Mr. Bump may be exhibiting symptoms of obsession. Earlier this week, Bump wrote yet another article on the same topic, and he ended that piece this way with a suggestion of a sinister conspiracy at work, quote, “Why promote that drug and why so energetically?” And he left the question hanging in the air. Philip Bump doesn’t believe in human optimism, he always assumes a secret agenda. But as usual, this was pure projection. What the creeps in big media accuse you of doing every single time, they are fervently doing themselves. They’re the ones obsessed with hydroxychloroquine. Most people just want a drug that works. They’re the ones with a weird, unspoken agenda that’s obvious, and yet hidden. Most people in this country just want a drug that works and in fact, in some circumstances, this drug may work. Hydroxychloroquine is still being used to treat coronavirus patients. Dozens of studies of its effectiveness are now in progress, still at this hour. Many doctors believe it can help if used early or in mild cases of the disease. The V.A. Secretary recently said as much. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) QUESTION: President Trump has touted this, but it is linked to higher rates of death in the V.A. coronavirus related. Can you elaborate what’s going on with this drug? ROBERT WILKIE, SECRETARY OF DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS: Sure. That’s an observational study. It’s not a clinical study. It was done on a small number of veterans. Sadly, those of whom were in the last stages of life, and the drug was given to them. And I have to — I have to also say that the drug — we know the drug has been working on middle age and younger veterans. (END VIDEO CLIP) CARLSON: Oh, so correlation is not causation. These are deep waters. Many people on television are not prepared. They’re not wearing their swimsuits. In real life, we are getting mixed results. We need to know more. This is how science actually works. It’s why we still haven’t cured cancer despite decades of working on it. But we have prolonged the lives of cancer patients significantly. That’s a victory. These are the kinds of victories you get in this business. Real science is complicated and difficult and almost always incremental. The party of science no longer understands that because they left science a long time ago.

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